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SOW: Rafe Fights for His Marriage; 2/21/12 Issue
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Feb 12 2012, 04:57 PM
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- jenesais
- Feb 11 2012, 05:21 PM
There is way too much supposedly heart-wrenching agony between these two that I have little doubt this is their planned first break-up as spouses. If things had ended better with Lucas (and BD), I'd imagine he and the Swine would re-connect. But I don't think so. I think this is just drama for Safe and they will get back together. The two things that have been projected about Rafe consistently are that he loves Sami and forgives people he loves easily.
Why he loves her is beyond logic. So my guess on that is AS prefers it. I can understand that. Absolutely agree!! :hail: :hail:
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Feb 14 2012, 07:09 AM
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- jenesais
- Feb 11 2012, 05:21 PM
There is way too much supposedly heart-wrenching agony between these two that I have little doubt this is their planned first break-up as spouses. If things had ended better with Lucas (and BD), I'd imagine he and the Swine would re-connect. But I don't think so. I think this is just drama for Safe and they will get back together. The two things that have been projected about Rafe consistently are that he loves Sami and forgives people he loves easily.
Why he loves her is beyond logic. So my guess on that is AS prefers it. I can understand that. Exactly! You have hit the nail on the head here. I, too, believe that SAFE is the rooting couple here. Things are not permantly over, not by a long shot.
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Feb 14 2012, 12:00 PM
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- magicsteacher
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- Feb 11 2012, 05:21 PM
There is way too much supposedly heart-wrenching agony between these two that I have little doubt this is their planned first break-up as spouses. If things had ended better with Lucas (and BD), I'd imagine he and the Swine would re-connect. But I don't think so. I think this is just drama for Safe and they will get back together. The two things that have been projected about Rafe consistently are that he loves Sami and forgives people he loves easily.
Why he loves her is beyond logic. So my guess on that is AS prefers it. I can understand that.
Absolutely agree!! :hail: :hail: I also have to agree. They have been through so much misery and heartache together that just to drop them makes no sense. I do believe there is much more ahead for them. Rafe is hopelessly in love with Sami...sometimes I think the poor guy is just a glutton for punishment....and Sami is quite good at dishing that out, but then Rafe is good at taking it. They are total opposites and that's why they work....we wouldn't wish Sami on anyone else! ... :stars:
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Feb 14 2012, 02:22 PM
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I disagree completely..I don't buy that Safe is the rooting couple..they were under Tomlin but not now..Safe can't eevn compare to Lumi and their incredible and long history. Lumi are soulmates. Sami may love Rafe but Lucas is the love of her life. I have no doubt about that whatsoever.
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Feb 14 2012, 03:13 PM
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If I woke from a coma and Channing Tatum told me he was my husband... I'd Believe Him!
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- mirabella
- Feb 14 2012, 07:09 AM
- jenesais
- Feb 11 2012, 05:21 PM
There is way too much supposedly heart-wrenching agony between these two that I have little doubt this is their planned first break-up as spouses. If things had ended better with Lucas (and BD), I'd imagine he and the Swine would re-connect. But I don't think so. I think this is just drama for Safe and they will get back together. The two things that have been projected about Rafe consistently are that he loves Sami and forgives people he loves easily.
Why he loves her is beyond logic. So my guess on that is AS prefers it. I can understand that.
Exactly! You have hit the nail on the head here. I, too, believe that SAFE is the rooting couple here. Things are not permantly over, not by a long shot. I believe Safe has been the rooting couple in the past... but I don't know why either Caustin or Safe would have to have a competition of who's the rooting couple. Cheating on their spouses was their choices. no one forced them to do it. Abby didn't drug Austin... He willinglly kissed her while drunk.. Carrie and Rafe kissed in the heat of fhe moment.. and Sami screwed herself with the Devil. They all made choices and there is no one to root for. Its better to say I hope these couple can learn to trust again and take their vows more seriously though.
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Taelyn
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Feb 14 2012, 06:31 PM
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Ive read That Rafe is rturniong to Carrie because she is the Good Giurl he always wanrted in Sami .. But I dont agree, Not at all.. I think Some have forgotten exactly who Rafe fell in love with. In my opinion some will simply look for any reason or excuse to tear apart, or explain what happened.. when in fact its clearly an action That the RESL Rafe would never have done. Whats obvious is its just an excuse for some to either A. Get rid of Galen .. For "Obvious" reasons. Or B. Tear apart Safe.. Because they were the reality of the end of others fantasies.. and some "STILL" despite all the protest think that without Galen it leaves a door open .. To the >> Unthinkable
But the real truth is
Rafe fell in love with ""Sami"" The real, Defiant Sami, the Schemer,Liar Etc.. She was the REAL Sami in that Safe House But He saw past all of that and looked deep, and saw the vulnerable,loyal, and loving Sami too ... And He fell in love with every aspect of her. And Sami fell madly in love with him. Whats been written in the past year or so has been a disgusting anomoly. Atleast The Lumi situation makes sense and will provide true emotional drama and angst instead of forced and contrived shock and awe stories that make no sense.
Rafe and Carrie have ZERO chemistry.. The writing has simply been aweful, and the Whole Cafe Idea and scenes , make no sense and are terrible. While I think Carrie is quite pretty, Its rediculous to try to sell us a story that her looks and her goody 2 shoes personality completely changed "Everything" about who Rafe is as a Man and a Husband.
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Feb 14 2012, 10:58 PM
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- jenesais
- Feb 11 2012, 05:21 PM
There is way too much supposedly heart-wrenching agony between these two that I have little doubt this is their planned first break-up as spouses. If things had ended better with Lucas (and BD), I'd imagine he and the Swine would re-connect. But I don't think so. I think this is just drama for Safe and they will get back together. The two things that have been projected about Rafe consistently are that he loves Sami and forgives people he loves easily.
Why he loves her is beyond logic. So my guess on that is AS prefers it. I can understand that. Yes, so forgiving of Sami, he let his sister died before she could implict Sami for a crime. What a stand-up guy!!! :applause:
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Feb 15 2012, 01:05 AM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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- Feb 14 2012, 02:22 PM
I disagree completely..I don't buy that Safe is the rooting couple..they were under Tomlin but not now..Safe can't eevn compare to Lumi and their incredible and long history. Lumi are soulmates. Sami may love Rafe but Lucas is the love of her life. I have no doubt about that whatsoever. I never was a fan of Lumi but you are right on all accounts. :hail:
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Feb 15 2012, 08:45 AM
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- Feb 14 2012, 06:31 PM
Ive read That Rafe is rturniong to Carrie because she is the Good Giurl he always wanrted in Sami .. But I dont agree, Not at all.. I think Some have forgotten exactly who Rafe fell in love with. In my opinion some will simply look for any reason or excuse to tear apart, or explain what happened.. when in fact its clearly an action That the RESL Rafe would never have done. Whats obvious is its just an excuse for some to either A. Get rid of Galen .. For "Obvious" reasons. Or B. Tear apart Safe.. Because they were the reality of the end of others fantasies.. and some "STILL" despite all the protest think that without Galen it leaves a door open .. To the >> Unthinkable
But the real truth is
Rafe fell in love with ""Sami"" The real, Defiant Sami, the Schemer,Liar Etc.. She was the REAL Sami in that Safe House But He saw past all of that and looked deep, and saw the vulnerable,loyal, and loving Sami too ... And He fell in love with every aspect of her. And Sami fell madly in love with him. Whats been written in the past year or so has been a disgusting anomoly. Atleast The Lumi situation makes sense and will provide true emotional drama and angst instead of forced and contrived shock and awe stories that make no sense.
Rafe and Carrie have ZERO chemistry.. The writing has simply been aweful, and the Whole Cafe Idea and scenes , make no sense and are terrible. While I think Carrie is quite pretty, Its rediculous to try to sell us a story that her looks and her goody 2 shoes personality completely changed "Everything" about who Rafe is as a Man and a Husband. I have to agree. Rafe did fall in love with the Sami the brat, he understood her and loved her anyway. They are a rooting couple. Detractors insist that with Lucas returning it will reunite their everlasting love. I have to believe that Lucas is older and wiser now, and he wouldn't be that much of an idiot to jump into that fire again. I do believe that he is her friend and confidant and will continue to be so. They do have a long and insane history as all of Sami's men do. But her heart is with Rafe....their history, of course not as long as with Lucas, is also one of angst and turmoil, but a deep and caring love. Sami wants Rafe back, but her fear and shame of her exposure of her sin plus the vision of Carrie & Rafe kissing prevents her from letting her guard down. Everybody wanted the real Sami, and we have her back. Hopefully, Rafe will want her back eventually after the reveal. But I want Rafe to see the real Carrie, too. She revealed herself with her little smirk to Sami after their "discussion." Carrie is as much a liar and bitch as Sami, only Carrie has the ability to disguise it better. Lucky for Sami & Carrie, they're both married to two schmucks who think their wives walk on water.
I sincerely hope that all this is not to get rid of Galen. Despite the fact that many here are so totally anti Galen, I think he brings so much to Days. He has had some truly amazing performances. I am not a fan of EJ, but I think James Scott is excellent in his role. Many here are quick to dismiss the actor because of his character, but he has to say the words written, that's his job. And jobs are not easy to come by. I would never encourage throwing any actor off the show. The writers should do their job and give the actors a decent script. A great story can be woven with the entire ensemble...it was done in the past, but not lately.
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Feb 15 2012, 10:03 AM
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- Safensane
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Ive read That Rafe is rturniong to Carrie because she is the Good Giurl he always wanrted in Sami .. But I dont agree, Not at all.. I think Some have forgotten exactly who Rafe fell in love with. In my opinion some will simply look for any reason or excuse to tear apart, or explain what happened.. when in fact its clearly an action That the RESL Rafe would never have done. Whats obvious is its just an excuse for some to either A. Get rid of Galen .. For "Obvious" reasons. Or B. Tear apart Safe.. Because they were the reality of the end of others fantasies.. and some "STILL" despite all the protest think that without Galen it leaves a door open .. To the >> Unthinkable
But the real truth is
Rafe fell in love with ""Sami"" The real, Defiant Sami, the Schemer,Liar Etc.. She was the REAL Sami in that Safe House But He saw past all of that and looked deep, and saw the vulnerable,loyal, and loving Sami too ... And He fell in love with every aspect of her. And Sami fell madly in love with him. Whats been written in the past year or so has been a disgusting anomoly. Atleast The Lumi situation makes sense and will provide true emotional drama and angst instead of forced and contrived shock and awe stories that make no sense.
Rafe and Carrie have ZERO chemistry.. The writing has simply been aweful, and the Whole Cafe Idea and scenes , make no sense and are terrible. While I think Carrie is quite pretty, Its rediculous to try to sell us a story that her looks and her goody 2 shoes personality completely changed "Everything" about who Rafe is as a Man and a Husband.
I have to agree. Rafe did fall in love with the Sami the brat, he understood her and loved her anyway. They are a rooting couple. Detractors insist that with Lucas returning it will reunite their everlasting love. I have to believe that Lucas is older and wiser now, and he wouldn't be that much of an idiot to jump into that fire again. I do believe that he is her friend and confidant and will continue to be so. They do have a long and insane history as all of Sami's men do. But her heart is with Rafe....their history, of course not as long as with Lucas, is also one of angst and turmoil, but a deep and caring love. Sami wants Rafe back, but her fear and shame of her exposure of her sin plus the vision of Carrie & Rafe kissing prevents her from letting her guard down. Everybody wanted the real Sami, and we have her back. Hopefully, Rafe will want her back eventually after the reveal. But I want Rafe to see the real Carrie, too. She revealed herself with her little smirk to Sami after their "discussion." Carrie is as much a liar and bitch as Sami, only Carrie has the ability to disguise it better. Lucky for Sami & Carrie, they're both married to two schmucks who think their wives walk on water. I sincerely hope that all this is not to get rid of Galen. Despite the fact that many here are so totally anti Galen, I think he brings so much to Days. He has had some truly amazing performances. I am not a fan of EJ, but I think James Scott is excellent in his role. Many here are quick to dismiss the actor because of his character, but he has to say the words written, that's his job. And jobs are not easy to come by. I would never encourage throwing any actor off the show. The writers should do their job and give the actors a decent script. A great story can be woven with the entire ensemble...it was done in the past, but not lately. On bolded....You know if he does decide to jump into that fire again, he would be the same type of idiot that you want Rafe to be, no? Actually Rafe going back to Sami after this and trying to work on their marriage when he clearly already has feelings for another woman would make Rafe worse, plus the cheating by Sami happened to him. Lucas wasn't cheated on in this instance, so if he looks at it through those eyes, why would Rafe be okay with jumping back into the fire of hell that is Sami's love life, but Lucas be an idiot for doing the same? I think there are a lot of unresolved things with Lumi, maybe unresolved feelings too and it would make a lot of sense that a more honest, more mature and grounded Lucas would want to finally lay all his cards on the table with Sami before he marries his fiancee. That makes sense to me and maybe there is a future for Lumi again because of that, maybe there isn't. But I'm having a hard time understand how Lucas would be a total moron if he does something that some fans want Rafe to do.
This is a soap, things happen and they don't make sense at times. I think Sami boinking Ej after she shot him in the head and hates him is much less realistic than Lucas returning and having unresolved feelings for Sami that he doesn't know if he should act upon or not, given the circumstances both Lucas and Sami are in.
I also don't know how anyone can actually say how Rafe would react with another woman when we barely know his relationship with anyone other than Sami. We know a little about his back story and apparently there is a dead fiancee somewhere in that past. So who's to say that the fight that lead up to the car crash that killed her on the night before their wedding didn't have something to do with him being unfaithful to her? We don't know enough, that's all.
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Feb 15 2012, 11:06 AM
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I may not be a huge Rafe fan but Sami doesn't deserve him lol. She's being such a huge bitch over a kiss when she had sex with EJ. I do like she's back to being hypocritical and lashing out. I miss that Sami. The one who was backed into a corner and fought her way out, however selfish she may come across. That's Sami. I can't wait to see if she starts scheming. I do NOT want a regression to 15 year old Sami, though. And I fear we are treading that territory. Yep the PTB have regressed Sami and what a shame that is. I mean they had her get over her J&M hate and name her youngest son after John! It is just too ridiculous for words and now we are in for another round of sister vs sister this time over Sami's man. so uncreative and predictable. :frustration: Everything that has happened and no doubt will has been predicted by many of us here and that is what is boring. I have no need to watch if I know what will happen and I am calling right now that SAFE get back together briefly before Marlena outs Sami and then Rafe starts chasing after Carrie. Eventually she will cheat with Austin like always and in the interim maybe a WTdaddy sl where Austin is ultimately the father just in time for another triangle with SAFE and Lumi as they will insert typical over used spoiler here "grow closer" than Lucas fiancee shows up under an assumed name but is non other than Emily. I also think there will be a quad with Bradison EJOLE and of course Ian will stir up trouble for Stefano and Kate. Bope and J&M have that ridiculous story too and the new quy coming on is likely for Abby. While she still obssesses over Austin for a while yet. Melanie I hope goes the way of Jamie and Chad can follow her.I hope Daniel's return is short lived and that Jennifer have to be the one to chase Jack. Though they will probably pick up where they left off with the JNJ and Tan triangle.I will just add we will probably have Sonny and Will coming together after Will comes to terms with who he is and Billie she will first be involved with Kate and after JnJ reunite be tossed at Drfeelsuphis patients.
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Feb 15 2012, 12:02 PM
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- Feb 14 2012, 06:31 PM
Ive read That Rafe is rturniong to Carrie because she is the Good Giurl he always wanrted in Sami .. But I dont agree, Not at all.. I think Some have forgotten exactly who Rafe fell in love with. In my opinion some will simply look for any reason or excuse to tear apart, or explain what happened.. when in fact its clearly an action That the RESL Rafe would never have done. Whats obvious is its just an excuse for some to either A. Get rid of Galen .. For "Obvious" reasons. Or B. Tear apart Safe.. Because they were the reality of the end of others fantasies.. and some "STILL" despite all the protest think that without Galen it leaves a door open .. To the >> Unthinkable
But the real truth is
Rafe fell in love with ""Sami"" The real, Defiant Sami, the Schemer,Liar Etc.. She was the REAL Sami in that Safe House But He saw past all of that and looked deep, and saw the vulnerable,loyal, and loving Sami too ... And He fell in love with every aspect of her. And Sami fell madly in love with him. Whats been written in the past year or so has been a disgusting anomoly. Atleast The Lumi situation makes sense and will provide true emotional drama and angst instead of forced and contrived shock and awe stories that make no sense.
Rafe and Carrie have ZERO chemistry.. The writing has simply been aweful, and the Whole Cafe Idea and scenes , make no sense and are terrible. While I think Carrie is quite pretty, Its rediculous to try to sell us a story that her looks and her goody 2 shoes personality completely changed "Everything" about who Rafe is as a Man and a Husband.
I have to agree. Rafe did fall in love with the Sami the brat, he understood her and loved her anyway. They are a rooting couple. Detractors insist that with Lucas returning it will reunite their everlasting love. I have to believe that Lucas is older and wiser now, and he wouldn't be that much of an idiot to jump into that fire again. I do believe that he is her friend and confidant and will continue to be so. They do have a long and insane history as all of Sami's men do. But her heart is with Rafe....their history, of course not as long as with Lucas, is also one of angst and turmoil, but a deep and caring love. Sami wants Rafe back, but her fear and shame of her exposure of her sin plus the vision of Carrie & Rafe kissing prevents her from letting her guard down. Everybody wanted the real Sami, and we have her back. Hopefully, Rafe will want her back eventually after the reveal. But I want Rafe to see the real Carrie, too. She revealed herself with her little smirk to Sami after their "discussion." Carrie is as much a liar and bitch as Sami, only Carrie has the ability to disguise it better. Lucky for Sami & Carrie, they're both married to two schmucks who think their wives walk on water. I sincerely hope that all this is not to get rid of Galen. Despite the fact that many here are so totally anti Galen, I think he brings so much to Days. He has had some truly amazing performances. I am not a fan of EJ, but I think James Scott is excellent in his role. Many here are quick to dismiss the actor because of his character, but he has to say the words written, that's his job. And jobs are not easy to come by. I would never encourage throwing any actor off the show. The writers should do their job and give the actors a decent script. A great story can be woven with the entire ensemble...it was done in the past, but not lately.
On bolded....You know if he does decide to jump into that fire again, he would be the same type of idiot that you want Rafe to be, no? Actually Rafe going back to Sami after this and trying to work on their marriage when he clearly already has feelings for another woman would make Rafe worse, plus the cheating by Sami happened to him. Lucas wasn't cheated on in this instance, so if he looks at it through those eyes, why would Rafe be okay with jumping back into the fire of hell that is Sami's love life, but Lucas be an idiot for doing the same? I think there are a lot of unresolved things with Lumi, maybe unresolved feelings too and it would make a lot of sense that a more honest, more mature and grounded Lucas would want to finally lay all his cards on the table with Sami before he marries his fiancee. That makes sense to me and maybe there is a future for Lumi again because of that, maybe there isn't. But I'm having a hard time understand how Lucas would be a total moron if he does something that some fans want Rafe to do. This is a soap, things happen and they don't make sense at times. I think Sami boinking Ej after she shot him in the head and hates him is much less realistic than Lucas returning and having unresolved feelings for Sami that he doesn't know if he should act upon or not, given the circumstances both Lucas and Sami are in. I also don't know how anyone can actually say how Rafe would react with another woman when we barely know his relationship with anyone other than Sami. We know a little about his back story and apparently there is a dead fiancee somewhere in that past. So who's to say that the fight that lead up to the car crash that killed her on the night before their wedding didn't have something to do with him being unfaithful to her? We don't know enough, that's all. I guess I don't see how two people, even those who have both cheated, trying to work on and preserve their marriage is too far-fetched. People do it everyday, and I know this is a soap, but honestly, couples on soaps have cheated on each other over and over and still manage to "work it out" and end up together again. So, Rafe doing the same is not unusual to me.
We can't say that Rafe obviously has feelings for another woman-- he has never admitted that and kissing someone that you may be attracted to doesn't = feelings for them, nor does it mean that Rafe doesn't still love Sami as much as he ever did. Rafe has been written to be a man who believes in committment and marriage up until this stupidly contrived plot point, and I am not at all surprised that he would try and fix things with his wife. That's who he is.
My prediction is that Safe will part for awhile b/c both have been hurt by the other's actions, no matter what the excuses for those behaviors were, but eventually will reunite. I honestly don't think they would have had Rafe cheat with Carrie if it wasn't to even the paying field somewhat between them. Will they probably each be with someone else? No doubt, but I still think they will end up back together.
I don't know what these writers have in store for any of these couples- we all have our own opinions and hopes for our couple, but that's all they are.
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